Click here to watch or read more information on IRS Back Taxes.<\/a><\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, it’s kind of yucky out but it’s not hot, it’s not humid.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It is humid, it’s just not hot.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I wish the sun would be out for a while.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think it’s going to get better later today.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0He is right, it is going to be sunny this afternoon and nice and tomorrow real pretty. Sun all day, then a little bit of a front coming in on Saturday but no rain so it’s going to be nice. A little bit cooler on Saturday. How about that for a weather report?<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I just had my cars cleaned, my interior and I need to open it up and let it air out and I haven’t been able to.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0When you come to work at 4:30 in the morning like me and it’s raining and it’s wet and you start feeling like a mushroom.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Shrivel up.\u00a0 So, this is the IRS Solution Attorney show.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It is, in fact, the IRS Solution Attorney show but before we start…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0We talk about other stuff besides that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Exactly, before we start talking about tax stuff which is what I do all day every day, I want to talk about the Pasco County fair in Dade City Florida.\u00a0 It’s on State Road 52, right there next to Pasco High School.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok, so we have a wide, wide range in the station. Pat, correct me if I’m wrong, but we go from North or Newport Richie all the way into Sarasota, all the way over to Orlando?<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes, we do.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s a pretty big circle so…<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0It depends on what station you are listening to.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Tell somebody why they should come to the Pasco County fair and Pat go ahead and promote the channel so 1010 am.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0And 103.1 fm and then there is another one 92.1 but that’s on like a top of a mailbox right around Delmabry and Lambright.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So, it’s not ready yet?<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, they were going to put it on and the story has been told by Mason and Charlie on their show that they were going to put it on a nice high transmitter tower that has been around for a long time right by Egypt Lake Elementary. You probably in that area see that antenna that’s been there but it’s rusting away and falling apart. When they went up to put the antenna on the pieces were breaking off in their hands. So, they go oops this has got to be fixed before we can do this so it is now on top of a mailbox and you can hear it in any direction for about a block.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Is that true?<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s literally just sitting basically on the ground someplace.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So, they are going to fix it?<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0I think you know it could be 11 feet, 15 feet in the air.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Interesting.\u00a0 So, that’s real radio for you right there.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0We get the 411 with Pat because you know he produces for Charlie and Mason.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0But it’s going to get better.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I’m excited.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So, the significance of the Pasco County Fair this particular weekend of, what’s today February 23rd?<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a04th<\/sup>, I think?<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a023rd.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So today is February 23rd.\u00a0 Tomorrow, February 24th 2017 is the hog show at the Pasco County Fair and there will be 2 Mish’s exhibiting hogs there.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Wait is that a dish or a Mish? A Mish.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0A Mish, there will be two Mish’s exhibiting hogs there.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Like baby Mish’s.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0The one is Ryan Mish, age 14, his hog\u2019s name is Porky or Porky Pie. Rachel, Miss Rachel Mish who’s 12, she will be exhibiting oh boy, her hogs name is Black Beauty.\u00a0 Almost forgot it.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0At least for another four days and then their names are going to be dinner.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So, there is a hog show on Friday evening at 6 p.m. and the auction is on Saturday, I’m not really sure when.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok, Darrin, explain this to non-farm people like. Who buys a pig? Because I buy bacon at the store but I can’t imagine buying a pig.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0They have Publix and Winn Dixies.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well interestingly enough Publix buys a large number of these hogs at the auction to support kids in FFA and 4H.\u00a0 But the idea behind the fair is to teach kids agricultural practices and teach them how to raise an animal and have the respect for the animal. But also, some capitalism skills, some financial skills because they have to budget money for feed and other care. Sometimes you need a vet to come out during the course of the project. The project lasts about 4 or 5 months so we’ve had these hogs at the house for 4-5 months. And then they go and there is a show where there is a judge. Usually from someplace like Iowa or Nebraska where there are a lot of hogs and a judge. All the kids go out in different weight classes and they get judged. The hog gets judged and the kid gets judged as a showman and their ability to show the pig.\u00a0 Then the next day there is an auction and the pigs, therefore the kids are ranked in order of finish in the show so the best. The grand champion goes first and he gets the highest amount and no hog after that can get even the same amount as that grand champion.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So, what are they looking for? I saw all the pictures of you on Facebook where the kids were walking the pigs.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s funny judges, hog judges have different things that they look for but basically, they are looking for an Arnold Schwarzenegger of hogs.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh, a big one ok.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0A big bulky, I’ve been to enough hog shows now and the funny thing is I wasn’t raised in agriculture, I really don’t know much about agriculture, honestly…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I know, he is a California boy if you can believe that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0We bought the farm because I think it’s cool and that’s really the only reason and because I wanted to raise kids with wholesome values and you know small town…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes.\u00a0 But what I think of a Californian, I don’t think of you.\u00a0 Which is why you are a Floridian.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think that might be a compliment. I’m not really sure.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0It was a compliment.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I’ve been to enough hog shows now that I kind of get what a good show hog looks like. And the best thing I can equate it to is if it looks like it would be good to eat, it’s a good show hog.\u00a0 I mean people don’t know this but you always think of Boston butt is the rear of the hog, that is not the case. It’s actually a shoulder and the butt of the hog, you know those big round-like glutes, that is actually the hams. So as the hog is walking away from you, if you look at their rear and you could imagine just a big beautiful ham in your oven. That’s how I judge a hog and of the two hogs that the kids have this year, porky pie is amazing because he’s, he just looks like he is going to be good to eat. Somebody is going to get really lucky with him.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Normally when I see stuff like that, I start looking for coleslaw to go with it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, you need some corn on the cob you need some chick peas….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I will never look at ham the same way again.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>Some barbecue sauce, that kind of thing.\u00a0 So, if you’ve never been to a livestock show this is your opportunity at the Pasco County Fair this week.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0What if somebody has no intention at all of buying a pig?\u00a0 Will they enjoy the show?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, it’s still really interesting because it’s so foreign to us.\u00a0 You know most people, and us included our family, we kind of equate food that comes from the grocery store. I mean you go to Publix and there are steaks wrapped in Styrofoam plastic and you look at them and you are like, ok, that is a good one. I’m going to take that and it’s just a way to kind of get back to your roots a little bit. And see that this is where your pork comes from.<\/p>\nLike I said, Publix buys an awful lot of these kids hogs at the auction and that pork ends up in the case at a grocery store somewhere. I’m not really sure where but you know Publix is based in Lakeland and Lakeland is only 20 minutes from Dade city so they buy a lot of hogs.\u00a0 It’s also a way for business owners to show their support to the community and when business owners buy a hog at the auction their business name gets said over and over and over.<\/p>\n
KATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Nice.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0That is probably pretty good for their business as well, at least in that local community.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That makes sense to me.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0That has absolutely nothing to do really with tax problems or taxes.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well we’ve got to keep it real.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0But I’m just really proud of the kids and this is their third year and you can see the progression they are getting better and better and better.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Or if you just want to come out and meet Darrin Mish, he will be out there with the kids so you can come out and say hello.\u00a0 He is a real person. I’ve been out and about and many of you have walked up to me and said hello. Sometimes people don’t even know who I am. Like we did that (inaudible) board planning thing awhile back and I was talking to a couple of people and they had no idea that I was Katrina. I guess they thought I was somebody else.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0After about noon there is an extremely high likelihood that I will be enjoying an adult beverage at the fair so….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Trust me, he is more fun to talk to after he’s had some adult beverages, so come afternoon I would highly encourage that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0If you want to seek me out it won’t be that hard. I will be hanging around the pig barn, I will be the guy in cowboy boots.\u00a0 Oh except for at this fair it won’t really be that big of a defining difference.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I was going to say you are in Pasco county, Darrin, everybody is going to be wearing cowboy boots especially at the pig show.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And it’s too hot to wear my cowboy hats, I mean it’s just too hot. I do have a number of cowboy hats but they are just too hot to wear in Florida.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Alright, so, what time will you be there and where can they find you?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I will be there probably almost all day Friday and then almost all day Saturday honestly and I will be hanging around the pig barn. It’s not that hard to find there is only one.\u00a0 The fairgrounds are so small there’s only really one barn in the entire place and…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Just follow the smell.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah it has to be, they do the cows early in the week and they do the pigs at the end of the week so the last day of the fair is Sunday and…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0How many pigs are entering, do you know?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh, it’s amazing like 300.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh wow…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, there are a lot of pigs.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Next week when we come in, we will find out how the pigs did and where they placed.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Absolutely.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0We’d like to find out how they taste.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0We grow an alternate too.\u00a0 We raise three because if you are going to raise two, you might as well raise three because you can have one for the family. After that, hog gets slaughtered and butchered and all of that and it ends up in the freezer. It takes like a year to eat it because it’s just a lot of pork.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Not for me.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I love bacon. I don’t know what part of the pig that it comes from but I love it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well when we come back I think we actually might talk about taxes or tax problems or attorney stuff…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0We are, we are, we are going to make it fun, I promise.\u00a0 We are going to talk about the fie questions that Darrin gets asked most as a tax attorney<\/a>.\u00a0 I wouldn’t actually call that your name but yeah, I guess he’s a tax attorney. But he’s your attorney to help you out if you’ve got a little beef with the IRS or in your case most of the time it’s a big beef with the IRS.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, usually it’s a big deal.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You are listening to the IRS Solution Attorney show I am your co-host Katrina Madewell.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And I’m Darrin T. Mish the IRS Solution Attorney…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Stick around we will be back in just a minute.\u00a0 If you’ve got a question you can call us at 888-404-1010 again save that number in your phone 888-404-1010. We will be back in just a minute.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back to the IRS Solution Attorney show. I am the IRS Solution Attorney, Darrin T. Mish.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I’m your co-host Katrina Madewell. I’m throwing Darrin off a little bit as I just pushed his phone to him and I said here quick turn it on we are going to stream live on Facebook.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And then just as I was doing that re-entry, I hit the volume button and I couldn’t hear myself and then I got kind of freaked out again. So, it’s further proof that I am not a radio professional.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Pat just pops them on when we are not looking.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah well, he just has to mess with us, that’s his deal.\u00a0 But today we are talking about the five questions that I get the most as a tax attorney or as an IRS tax attorney as Katrina likes to call me.\u00a0 Sometimes I just call myself a tax attorney because it makes it easier for people to understand what I do.\u00a0 The first question…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I actually prefer the IRS guy. It’s usually what I call you.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0The first question that I get most often is, am I going to go to prison because I owe the IRS taxes?\u00a0 I get that question several times a week. People call and they are petrified, sometimes, this is kind of funny. They won’t even give us their real name and\/or address they just want a consult and you know it’s like what’s your name?\u00a0 John Smith, where do you live? 123 Main St.<\/p>\nOver the years, I have not had real good luck with those people who won’t give me their name. Because it’s just usually an indicator of other stuff that is kind of wrong and going on in their lives. The answer is, no, you are not really going to go to prison as a result of your tax debt. Unless you’ve committed tax evasion or fraud of some sort then it’s theoretically possible. In this country, no one goes to jail for owing taxes.<\/p>\n
We don’t have debtors prisons in the United States of America.\u00a0 You can go to jail for cheating on your taxes, which means lying on your taxes. So, lying can equal jail but the failure to file a tax return?\u00a0 I guess theoretically it’s possible, you can go to jail for the failure to file a tax return. It’s a Federal misdemeanor and you can do up to a year in Federal prison for that.<\/p>\n
KATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0But isn’t that kind of only with those crazy people that don’t file taxes because they think it’s unconstitutional?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I’ve met some US Attorney’s that used to prosecute tax crimes. And I always ask them “so all of my clients are non-filers why don’t you prosecute everyone?”\u00a0 They basically said we just don’t have the resources every non-filer.\u00a0 The percentage of the population that doesn’t file a tax return is something like 10%.\u00a0 So, I mean you are talking…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That’s a big number.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0You are talking 20 million people probably every year that don’t file a tax return. So, the Federal government simply doesn’t have the resources to prosecute all those people. And the IRS has a written policy that says if you are a non-filer and you eventually file your tax returns.\u00a0 If they were not investigating you for the crime of failure to file they will not prosecute you for that so.\u00a0 I think the simple answer is you are not going to jail unless you’ve done something really, really bad or you really kind of worked at it.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I can see where the general population would think that. And you and I have talked about this several times about how when people come in they are petrified or scared. They’ve driven themselves near to the point of insanity because they are so worked up and consumed and worried about this.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, we see a lot of people at that level of anxiety and it really breaks my heart because it’s really not needed. I’ve told this story before on air and I know you’ve heard it more than once Katrina about the gentleman who came in…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That is why I brought it up because I was hoping you would tell it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0The gentleman who came in he was quite a bit older than I was but he was physically trembling, shaking, he was just wracked with anxiety. It wasn’t hard to read his body language and understand that this was somebody who was just not feeling comfortable.\u00a0 So, I tried to nail him down. I said tell me why are you so nervous here what’s the problem here and he says well I haven’t filed a tax return in a while and I got a big smile you know because I hear that all day right…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0What’s awhile…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So, what’s a while and he says well a long time.\u00a0 I’m like hey a long time is relative, like how long? He says, he tells me this big long story bit it boiled down to well since 1960.\u00a0 I couldn’t help but I started laughing and the reason. I started laughing was I was born in 67. And so, it was just kind of funny like this guy has not filed a tax return for the entire length of my life and I’m going to be the guy that gets to help him fix it.\u00a0 Now before people start to freak out about this guy didn’t pay taxes for his whole life he was always…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah because we get the haters…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0He was always a W-2 wage earner. He always had taxes withheld he just didn’t file.\u00a0 It had something to do with some bad experience he had back in the Army….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Something that started something that was a snowball to where he got…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0He had this mental block about filing. So, long story short, we helped him file the past 6 years returns. We got him current, we got him up to date and it all worked out. But that was my favorite story about him, am I going to go to prison because that is why he was so anxious.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0You have another one to what about the rocker guy or the guy in the band that thought people were waiting outside of his window remember, remember?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, I still represent him and so I won’t give away to many clues about who he is, but he was absolutely convinced, he heard. You know he was really fixated on the anxiety of not filing and the IRS and all that stuff.\u00a0 He was really convinced that they were closing in on him. And I don’t remember if it was because he got some of those phishing emails or maybe he got one of those bogus phone calls or something. But he was really fixated that this was going to go down. And so, one night he was having trouble sleeping and he heard some noises outside his window. And he was convinced it was the IRS was going to raid his house and take him away and take him to jail.\u00a0 That hasn’t happened and that is not going to happen…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0But people get so get caught up in your own thoughts and they can run wild and they just get away from you sometimes.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And we all do that I am not criticizing at all the people who feel like that…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0But it’s the fear of the unknown.<\/p>\n
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