making that phone call to get that installment agreement and there are people that are like that and I totally respect that<\/a>.\u00a0 There’s you know I could probably going back to the septic guys that have to come out to the house today, I could probably theoretically do that job, not a job I want to do I’ve got a lot of hang-ups about that particular issue and I don’t want to do that.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I don’t see it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0If you say so but I don’t see it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Katrina has been really hard on my lately that like so I just got this new place and I just got a chain saw and she doesn’t even believe that I can actually use the chain saw.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh my gosh.\u00a0 I didn’t mean it like that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So, so now I’ve got to go find you know like a 30,40,50 ft dead tree and like…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Take a video.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0A video of me going all Paul Bunyan on her so that she can see the tree, actually falling and hitting the tree around, hopefully the ground hopefully not on me.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok so for as long as we’ve been in existence together hosting a show, the running joke is always being that you are not the guy, you got a guy.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah this is true.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That’s always been the running joke so now I’m a jerk because you feel like I insinuated that you are not a manly man and all I said was that you used your brains…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0But here’s the, here’s my challenge…This is true so here’s my actual problem that I have now is that I need so many guys to come out on this new property that I can’t afford all those guys so now I’ve got to figure out how to do stuff.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Gotta be the guy.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I gotta be the guy on some of these things you know.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Look all I’m saying is if you want help I will send my husband it’s not going to be me because I don’t even know how to start the chain saw it’s all I’m saying.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I don’t think starting it’s going to be the problem I got a lot of advice on social media to make sure to get all the safety gear which I….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah I just to make sure you don’t show up missing fingers or anything, I was genuinely concerned for you Darrin I didn’t mean anything other than concern that was it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Alright I promise I’ll start slow and I’ll graduate to you know going all Paul Bunyan ok.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0And ask for help if you need it it’s all I’m saying.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well I will tell you right now if….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Don’t be one of those guys that don’t ask for directions.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0If I’m not enjoying it I won’t do it because I do have the guys that can do this but I have this huge tree on my property that’s fallen and it’s just ugly and it’s a mess and…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You have fire wood.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Except we don’t have a wood burning fireplace but that’s a different issue.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So are you…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So I will have to get a guy you know….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Are you going to teach your son how to do this?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Eventually.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Eventually.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Just asking.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So part of my challenge is I didn’t have you know I didn’t have a father figure that took, taught me a lot of that stuff when I was growing up so.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You ended up alright though?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think so.\u00a0 So back to the, to the topic of the show…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0The real show.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Which is Figuring out A Time Table to Ending your Tax Problem so here’s something that I see a lot.\u00a0 I see because of the mental, emotional anxiety wrapped around the IRS and the owing money to the IRS in general.\u00a0 There’s kind of two types of people, the most common is the kind person that is kind of like ehh it’s usually\u00a0 a guy, women don’t do this as often, it’s usually a guy and he’s like you know I’ll get to that someday and I will deal with that and I’ve literally have had clients that I couldn’t get to move off of doing nothing for 3-5 years, I mean just can’t get them to do anything….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Just frozen in beer.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Just frozen, just you know they don’t want to deal, they like the idea that they have somebody to deal with it but they are not dealing with it they are not getting us documentation to do tax returns, they are not getting us documentation to prove their finances things like that…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Isn’t that called paralysis analysis I think there is a word for that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s called chronic procrastination the problem is they are not analyzing anything so it’s not paralysis analysis they are not analyzing anything they are just stuck and there are people that just like the idea of having me in place you know with a power of attorney, that sort of a safety shield but there’s limits to what we can do you know and the other kind of person is the kind of person is like ok darn it I made the decision and you know smack the table, I want it over today.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Alright.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well unless you are going to do an online payment for the full amount to the IRS it’s probably not going to be over today it\u2019s going to take a while it’s a process and depending upon you know the solution that we decide to put into place it’s going to take either months or you know even many months.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0And we will talk about that guy as well as where you live because that may have a big impact on actually how long it takes to get your case finalized.\u00a0 You are listening to the IRS Solution Attorney show we have to take a real quick break stick around and we will be back in just a minute.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back you are listening to the IRS Solution Attorney show with Mr…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0The Solution, the IRS Solution Attorney…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah that guy Darrin T. Mish.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Darrin T. Mish.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I’ll get his name right for him even when he can’t.\u00a0 I’m your co-host Katrina Madewell and we were talking about some of the mental aspects if you have some of these big problems like an IRS issue and also trying to figure out how to put up a time line on how to actually end this tax problem and the earlier segment we did babble a lot and Darrin said it was taking long it wasn’t but outside of that I was asking him who his clients were and they were like you know\u00a0 just kind of frozen not do anything or they jump right in and I think that is where we left off.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0You know my stereo typical client if there is such a thing is usually an independent contractor type of person, person that gets a 1099 of any kind really and gets caught sort of shorthanded you know they weren’t expecting the big tax bill or sometimes there have been people that are, have been receiving 1099’s for years and years and it’s not really they are caught short handed or caught by surprise they just don’t have any system what’s so ever to make sure that they pay their taxes and then there is another type of guy who gets a 1099 and really doesn’t make enough money to pay the taxes and that’s another problem you know all by itself.\u00a0 One gentleman that comes to mind is I’ve represented this house painter for many years, I think he does primarily interior house painting, I think he might do some exterior to but when we’ve run the math I mean I’ve know this gentleman for 10 or 12 years, I’ve run the math on what he actually earns on an hourly basis and it’s so low that he literally would be better working the paint counter and Sherwin-Williams then he does painting houses and he’s getting up there in age, he’s probably around 60 now, not that that’s old but you know house painting is manual labor..<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And I’m not quite 50 and I don’t want to be painting houses all day that sounds like actual hard work you know.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes it’s funny that you mentioned that because my mother-in-law is going to be in the process of a move soon and Chris and I were talking and we were like, he says yeah my mom wants us to go move a couch and I said can we please just pay movers to move her because we are just getting to old to be moving all that stuff up and down stairs.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0You just scared me right now you were looking at me and I was like oh no she is going to ask me, she’s going to ask me to move her mother-in-law live on the air here because she knows that I drive a pickup truck…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0No.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I’ve been talking about being a manly man but I can tell you right now me and moving furniture is not a pretty site.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well no we have a truck to and I was just going to say that I don’t want to move it either so I would rather pay somebody a few bucks to move her…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0If it’s just a couch…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0With the time that I don’t have…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I would probably be willing to move a couch…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well that what it started with which is the couch…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0One couch…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That is what they ask but you know it’s never just the couch like can we just figure all this out in the same day and just get it done that is what I’m thinking.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s a couch and 16 pickup truck loads you know later, hey thanks for moving my couch.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, appreciate the help today anyway yeah we have a lot of fun in between but we were talking about the time line in relation to where you live.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So some of the things that can impact how, the timeline on how to you know handle the tax problem is could be where you live.\u00a0 I will give you an example we are here in the<\/p>\nTampa Bay area and it does not appear to me that revenue officers are overly taxed and overly stressed you know and have huge caseloads.\u00a0 Revenue officer is a IRS person who handles a case in a local area so it’s like, a revenue officer gets involved when the case has been escalated somewhat so then there is actually a human being, a person who handles the case, goes out to your place of business or residence and says hi I’m here from the government I’m here to help.<\/p>\n
KATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Is that what they really say? I’m here to help?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0No that’s…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok.\u00a0 Just checking.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Just because it’s so funny right I mean I’m from the government and I’m here to help. Ok that doesn’t ever work…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I’m curious what they do say you have to ask some of your clients what the revenue officer showed up and say hey by the way what exactly do they say when they came?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I’ll tell you hi I’m John Smith I’m a revenue officer with the Internal Revenue Service you owe us $167,238.00 and I would like that check right now please.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Is that what they say or do they just wait for an answer after they drop the bomb on how much you owe or do they ask like how do you intend to repay us I’m just really curious about that.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well we get a lot of written correspondence from revenue officers and there’s always a demand with a deadline for full payment no matter how big the number is so I’m pretty sure they probably ask for full payment you know right there on the spot.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0And they say well I don’t have the money and they say well how soon will you have the money right is it something like this?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I don’t know…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Is it that bold?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0We should do a show on the 4 different types of revenue officers at some point in time but little beyond the scope of today’s outline even though we’ve talked about chainsaws, horseflies…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Do you think we could invite the revenue officers and it would be like yes that would be really fun radio but that’s probably not what you want to do right…<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah I’m going to say they probably don’t have authorization to do that but anyways so…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So let’s see if we can invite the customers and we will ask them what they said.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So let’s talk about you know where you live.\u00a0 I can tell you that in Tampa Bay we don’t seem to have this huge backlog but in Texas I have some Texas cases, in Texas you’ve got to owe just a tremendous amount of money before a revenue officer is assigned to the case.\u00a0 I have a payroll case…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Cause everything’s bigger in Texas.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think, I guess so I think what it is, is there is more money in Texas especially when oil was booming just recently and so the numbers are just a lot bigger so that they are prioritized.\u00a0 I have a payroll case in Texas that I’ve been handling for a couple of years and I think the balance due is over $200,000 and if this was in Tampa we’d have a revenue officer and there would be all kinds of crazy pressure and things like that, but that’s in Texas so $200,000 is not that much.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So it’s all relative not only how long but how much you owe depending on the area that’s interesting.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And the type of your tax problem, is it income tax, payroll tax…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah how complex it is.<\/p>\n
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