Click here to watch or read more information on IRS Back Taxes.<\/a><\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I’m super proud of you Rachel.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Thank you, dad.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So you know I help people that have IRS Problems right?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Mmm hmm.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0And so what do you know about IRS problems?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well I know that it is not good to have them and that you fix them.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Wait, Rachel how old are you and what grade are you in?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0I’m 12 well I’m going into grade 7.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok, go ahead, just wanted to put that out there. So go ahead and finish your dad’s question so you know IRS problems are not good.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0They are not like the best thing to have you should probably get rid of them as fast as you can.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So have you been hanging out in the office and heard anything, have you heard your dad talking on the phone or anything like that?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Mm hmm he talks to clients and helps them, he reassures them that like he is gonna fix them.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0What is your perspective? As a kid listening.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Like you never walked in and heard your dad talking and like wow.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Yeah there’s a lot of problems that need fixing.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Good for us, right?\u00a0 So how long have you been coming to the office?\u00a0 Is there a time in your life that you could not remember coming to the office from time to time?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Probably from when I was like 5.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Ok, so the back story is Rachel’s been coming to the office since like, I don’t know from when she was about 6 weeks old.\u00a0 You know, you keep your newborn at the house and until their immune system builds up and what not\u2026 and so Rachel got to the office probably when she was 6 weeks old or so and we also had Ryan so he was about 2 years old at the time and Ryan was there also from pretty much birth and he was there for the 2 years. Well, he didn’t talk on the air, right, so he was really chilled out when he was in the office, you couldn’t tell he was even there, Rachel….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh yeah well her name says it all.\u00a0 You know Rachel’s in the room.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Rachel was just a little bit more vocal and so Rachel lasted about a year in the office and then they all had to go.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0And then she was probably just tearing the place apart making it her own, I can see it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, so, she is not the shy one of the family and she’s probably going to be a movie star or a singer or something when she grows up.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So where did you get that from, your mom or your dad?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0I have no idea.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Alright what’s the answer there, Mr. Mish.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0It’s probably her mom actually.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Her mom’s the outgoing one?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0She’s the vivacious, outgoing, talkative one, you know, super energetic.\u00a0 I’m the sort of the shy, introverted person in the family after Ryan, you know Ryan’s pretty chilled out.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0We just got to yank it out of you every week.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah for sure so.\u00a0 We are having a great time here in the studio today, it’s really cool to have my kids here in and I feel really proud of you Rachel that you are talking on the air and it’s really special to have you.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I know she is like bold, I don’t know if I could have done that at 12.\u00a0 She’s really, I’m proud of her too.\u00a0 Good job.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah there is no way.\u00a0 I would have ran out of the room at age 12. In fact I almost ran out of the room at age 48.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That’s funny.\u00a0 Well you are listening to the IRS Solution Attorney Show that’s Mr. Darrin T. Mish.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0That is me.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0The host of the show.\u00a0 He answers all of those IRS problem, tax related questions every week and I’m your co-host Katrina Madewell we do our best to keep it fun, to keep it real, to answer those questions.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah for sure.\u00a0 Today we are going to talk about something that’s, I call it kind of a soft topic.\u00a0 We are not going to talk about you know tax problems per se, we are not going to talk about owing tons of money to the IRS and how you mechanically fix that.\u00a0 Today we are going to talk about just How to Keep IRS Problems from bleeding into other areas of your life and really degrading those other areas of your life if, that makes sense.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I think so, yeah. Well we have talked about it a bunch of times on the show.\u00a0 When people have a problem such as owing the IRS a ton a money, whatever a ton of money is to them.\u00a0 I can see how that would bleed into other areas.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Exactly. So you know when you have financial problems it has a tendency to impact negatively all the other areas of your life so if you….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0What’s the number one thing you think it impacts?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh, I think it impacts relationships for sure.\u00a0 You see more\u2026I see more marital strain then average.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You could almost build in a marriage counselor into your practice I think.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I can tell you that would not be me…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0No, no, no I’m not suggesting that to you, I am just saying.\u00a0 What would be a good need for another professional?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think the guy that decided to call attorneys, attorney at law or attorney and counselor at law I think he should be shot because the\u00a0 counselor part is just really not me anyway, well I guess that’s not exactly the truth.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You have to do it in some respects.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah I would say I do a little bit of counseling from the standpoint of I’m here to make people feel better and understand what reality is versus their perceived fear of what’s happening in their lives so I guess I counsel.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0There’s a lot of emotions you probably have to keep that calm and at bay at some point and a lot of that is trust.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0A lot of times, I realized this yesterday I was talking a gentleman and I realized I have about, when somebody comes in for an appointment I have about 10-15 minutes to allay those fears before we can get down to brass tax and talk about how we can solve the problem because…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So do you ask them straight up like what’s your number 1 fear when they come in?\u00a0 What’s your biggest concern right now?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0You know I should.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Just curious.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I don’t always do that. That’s, you know, it’s on the list.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Because I think if you would ask them that I think it would come right out.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Sure, yeah for sure.\u00a0 You know what’s the worst thing that you are imagining that could happen.\u00a0 A lot of times I don’t do that because I kind of know, you know I’ve talked to enough people I kind of know but I really should ask cause if I ask then they will have the opportunity to tell me and I will have the almost immediate opportunity to say well that’s not going to happen.\u00a0 Peoples biggest fear often times is well I’m going to go to prison.\u00a0 You know, I didn’t pay my taxes I owe, sometimes they are like I owe $27,000 and I think they are going to put me in prison.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You should put like a black and white stripe jumpsuit framed, kind of like a jersey, in your office and then just put a big like some red circle with a line through it.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Universal no sign.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yes like put that right there in the lobby.\u00a0 Wouldn’t it make people feel better.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Probably would, I didn’t think that is where you were heading, I thought you were heading like put a prison jumpsuit there on the wall and just let it be there.\u00a0 I think that would be really bad.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Never know what I am going to say, no I wouldn’t do that to your clients.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I think that would be really bad for business, but yeah, I think people’s biggest fears they are going to go to prison because they owe the IRS some money and you know we talked about this many times on the show that’s really unlikely, it’s very uncommon and there’s certain things you have to work at to make that happen, to even be a possibility.\u00a0 Generally speaking, if you owe money to the IRS and you don’t pay them you don’t go to prison that’s sort of the general rule.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0If you are intentionally doing things that’s maybe a different story.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, if you are hiding assets and you are doing lots of you know covert things to hide what you have and things like that then there is a slim possibility, there’s a lot better possibility if you are a notable public figure.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Right cause they want to make an example out of you.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Like an actor or actress or an athlete or a lawyer or doctor or such.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So Rachel out of you and your brother Ryan who’s going to be the one to follow in dad’s footsteps and go you know get their law degree and their license and help dad in the firm?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well Ryan’s going to do his type of law and then I want to probably do like land or oil.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh so you are gonna be an attorney to but you are going to do different like real estate or environmental.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Yep.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well Rachel’s really into rocks.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I was gonna say, what?\u00a0 That’s a different answer.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0She’s one of these kids that has not grown out of the picking up rocks in the parking lot.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0Most girls are, diamonds.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah we actually went to Arkansas on a vacation and in Arkansas there is a lot of diamond mines and so dad couldn’t afford to take her mining for diamonds, so we went crystal mining and she had a ball. We were all there in the red dirt with like little pick axes and we were searching for quartz crystals.\u00a0 Rachel is really into rocks and she, she hasn’t gotten over it and she’s not going to get over it so she is thinking about being an oil lawyer.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So what would you do?\u00a0 Do you have any idea who your clients would be?<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0People who are having like an argument over where their land is.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Oh so property disputes.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Mm hmm the same thing but with oil.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Now where did that come from, property disputes, like where did you get that at 12 just curious.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Pretty much him.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0So what conversation led to that.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well we were kind of talking about what I wanted to do when I grow up and like he was asking me if I wanted to be a lawyer, and I was like well, I don’t really want to deal with people that I don’t really like, I don’t really want to deal with law because I’m not interested in that, but like what other types of lawyers were there and dad told me all about those.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well I mean you kind of have to know the law if you are going to be an attorney though.\u00a0 You don’t like the reading and the…<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Well I don’t like…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Legaleze.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0I don’t like that certain type.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Gotcha.\u00a0 Well you are listening the IRS Solution Attorney show with our little, very special VIP guest Miss Rachel Mish, I’m your co-host Katrina Madewell, Mr. Darrin Mish is your host.\u00a0 You got a question for him 888-404-1010 we are happy to take your questions we are live this morning in the studio 888-404-1010, save Moneytalk in your phone and even if you have just an off the wall question or comment chime on in would love to hear from you 888-404-1010 be safe we will be back in just a minute.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back to the IRS Solution Attorney show I am THE IRS Solution Attorney joined by my lovely daughter Rachel Mish and my co-host Katrina Madewell.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That’s me, welcome back to the show.<\/p>\nRACHEL: <\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Thank you.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0So today we are talking about how to keep IRS problems from bleeding into other areas of your life and you know we’ve talked about this before on the show and people come in and very often I would say more than half the time there is really high anxiety.\u00a0 The anxiety almost always seems to be from the fear of the unknown and my folks happen to be procrastinators and that’s ok.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0You think?\u00a0 Just a little?<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I love procrastinators from the standpoint of it’s so relatively easy to fix honestly, it’s based upon a decision to change that behavior, does that make sense? So when I was a kid when I was in high school, even college to some extent and maybe even a lot in law school, I would tend to procrastinate because why not right?\u00a0 I mean that’s, it’s very common in I would say not typical, but normal human behavior right so I’m not saying everybody is a procrastinator but…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0I just know my kids procrastinate all the time on school projects, I’m just curious what percentage of people do that regularly.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, so I was a procrastinator all the way through school and really what changed it was being a lawyer. You got deadlines, you can’t always get those changed particularly in the area of tax law.\u00a0 So you’ve got to get working on it because you don’t want to be banging out a tax petition literally an hour before the post office closes on the day that it is due.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well plus I imagine your preparation is half the battle like even for me preparation means the difference of being successful and not.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, for sure. In my area for sure, if you are not prepared you are going to lose that’s just the way it is when you are doing trial work right, I mean trials are not scary, I’ve tried quite a few jury trials and trials are not scary. What’s scary is the prospect of going into a jury trial unprepared, that is terrifying ok so…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Walking into anything unprepared is kind of like, I mean\u2026<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Exactly.\u00a0 And when you are unprepared what are you really scared of?\u00a0 At least for me I can tell you I’m scared of the unknown.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Like I don’t know what’s going to happen, I don’t know what I’m going to say…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Well you don’t have any direction in your mind because there is no outline, there is no preparation, there’s no ground work.<\/p>\nPAT GEORGE: <\/strong>\u00a0I can’t see that happening to you.\u00a0 I mean this is a guy that is always prepared how could that happen.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well, thank you.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0That’s because you know when we first agreed to do the show together I told him I will show up, I’ll help the show going, I’ll keep it fun but I’m not doing your outlines it’s all you.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Well for sure I have really good people behind me for the show for sure and it helps…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0And sometimes we don’t even really go off the outline which makes it fun but you still got to have the outline.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Yeah, today we are not really even sticking to the outline all that well but that’s fine because we know what we are talking about and we are just really prepared because of life experience right so when so when you are doing a trial and you are not prepared then that’s frightening because you are afraid of the unknown and that’s what happens to people that come see me.\u00a0 The reason primarily that they haven’t dealt with the problem is because they are terrified of what might happen.<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0See my idea when you say that of your client being prepared would be doing a whole bunch of research and like having at least 10 or 20 questions ready right off the bat when they come and see you.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0Almost never happens.\u00a0 Almost never happens.\u00a0 The person…<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0No wonder. They are so terrified.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0I can’t remember the last person that asked me 10 or 20 questions.\u00a0 It’s usually 2 or 3 and that might be because I am really thorough when we are having our conversation, I don’t know, pat on the back, but I don’t know, I just don’t thing people do that much research.\u00a0 I think they do\u2026 quite a lot of people do quite a bit of research on who they are going to call first or maybe I’m quite often the second person that they call, which is fine with me.\u00a0 So anyway, you just have to be careful not to let, when you have a problem of this magnitude ok, say you think you might owe $100,000 to the IRS or, even more, when you have a problem of that magnitude it’s really easy to let that bleed into other areas of your life so that anxiety causes lots of people to be really irritable and on edge all the time.\u00a0 So do you, you know, you’re married, I’m married, do you want to be around somebody that’s like….<\/p>\nKATRINA MADEWELL: <\/strong>\u00a0Cranky.<\/p>\nDARRIN T. MISH: <\/strong>\u00a0That scared all the time, it’s like unattractive.<\/p>\n
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